Having already axed the first two weeks of the basketball season due to a standoff with players, NBA officials will announce that another two weeks will be canceled, according to the New York Daily News.

That’s another 102 games off the schedule, and will keep the season from starting any earlier than Nov. 28.

Perhaps most troubling for NBA fans is the fact that no more talks are on the immediate horizon to put an end to the current lockout. The central issue holding up talks is a new harder salary cap that owners advocate.

Some say that it might be time to bring a new negotiator on board to bring the two sides together. Not all hope is lost, after all. The league hasn’t canceled the entire season…yet.